From declan@well.comMon Jul 22 11:14:08 1996 Received: from vorlon.mit.edu (brnstndkramden.acf.nyu.edu@VORLON.MIT.EDU [18.238.0.139]) by eff.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA04977; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by vorlon.mit.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA18280 for fight-censorship-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:06:27 -0400 Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu (PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.106]) by vorlon.mit.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18276 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:06:24 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04438 for fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:06:19 -0400 Received: via switchmail for fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00121 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:05:47 -0400 Received: from [204.62.128.229] (dc4mac.wired.com [204.62.128.229]) by wired.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15714 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: declan@hotwired.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:09:56 -0500 To: fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu From: declan@well.com (Declan McCullagh) Subject: German officials keep pushing anti-porn/Nazi net-campaign Sender: owner-fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu Precedence: bulk X-URL: http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/ X-JusticeOnCampusURL: http://joc.mit.edu/ Attached is more on Germany. I grabbed the first article from the wire; I was forwarded the second and can't vouch for its accuracy. I have background at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~declan/international/, especially when we get the f-c archive site back online. There's a bio of German Federal Minister Claudia "International Net-Standards Needed" Nolte at: http://206.2.58.40/close-up/nolte.htm -Declan ************************************************************************** HAMBURG, GERMANY, 1996 JUL 18 (NB) -- By Steve Gold. America Online's (AOL) German operation has moved swiftly to refute any suggestion that it is responsible for the transmission of pornography, especially child pornography, across its network. The refutement comes as Hamburg state prosecutors have announced they are looking at the issue of responsibility for online service subscribers who propagate pornographic files between themselves. "AOL Bertelsmann Online completely rejects the accusation of spreading child pornography," said AOL in a prepared statement. [...] As reported previously by Newsbytes, German state prosecutors have been getting very jittery over the spread of neo-nazi and pornographic material across the Internet... According to the German media, the Hamburg state prosecutors are investigating instances of "lewd" material being relayed across AOL's service. However, Newsbytes notes that the prosecutors may face an uphill battle in any prosecution as there is no specific online pornography statute in the German lawbooks, despite there being provision for distribution of neo-nazi information. Industry experts have suggested that the state prosecutor's department's investigation is nothing more than a media circus. [...] ************************************************************************** UNITED NATIONS (Jul 17, 1996 10:47 a.m. EDT) -- International standards for the Internet may be necessary to prevent pornographers and neo-Nazis from using cyberspace to circumvent national laws, Germany's minister for family affairs says. "Because the Internet knows no national borders, we will be able to protect youth only through international standards," said Claudia Nolte, who was at the United Nations on Tuesday to discuss ways to protect women and children from violence and sexual exploitation. Nolte told reporters that while the Internet offered "many positive opportunities" for exchanging information, the global computer network could be abused by neo-Nazis and pornographers operating outside national jurisdictions. She said the United Nations could play a role in developing international standards to control such abuse. [...] ************************************************************************** From declan@well.comMon Jul 22 11:14:17 1996 Received: from vorlon.mit.edu (brnstndkramden.acf.nyu.edu@VORLON.MIT.EDU [18.238.0.139]) by eff.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA11566; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by vorlon.mit.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA18473 for fight-censorship-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:17:27 -0400 Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.101]) by vorlon.mit.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18469 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:17:26 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA28660 for fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:16:04 -0400 Received: via switchmail for fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00407 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:14:34 -0400 Received: from [204.62.128.229] (dc4mac.wired.com [204.62.128.229]) by wired.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16907 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:14:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: declan@hotwired.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 20:18:43 -0500 To: fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu From: declan@well.com (Declan McCullagh) Subject: Re: German officials keep pushing anti-porn/Nazi net-campaign Sender: owner-fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu Precedence: bulk X-URL: http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/ X-JusticeOnCampusURL: http://joc.mit.edu/ [More on Germany, from Matthew Gaylor's freematt list. --Declan] C O M P U T E R I N D U S T R Y D A I L Y July 18, 1996 ===================================================================== Timely Insights and Analyses of Today's Information Technology News ===================================================================== German Minister Calls on UN to Limit Net Germany's minister for family affairs, Claudia Nolte, believes that international standards limiting Internet content may be required to prevent pornography and neo-Nazi material from appearing in cyberspace. Nolte says, "Because the Internet knows no national borders, we will be able to protect youth only through international standards." Nolte further indicated that the United Nations might participate in formulating international standards to control content. It seems that parents in Germany are no more able to determine what their kids view on the Internet than are parents in the US. Both sets of parents turn to government bodies instead. From j.stokes@student.anu.edu.auMon Jul 22 11:14:36 1996 Received: from vorlon.mit.edu (brnstndkramden.acf.nyu.edu@VORLON.MIT.EDU [18.238.0.139]) by eff.org (8.7.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA16271; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 10:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by vorlon.mit.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA30778 for fight-censorship-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:21:33 -0400 Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu (PO2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.102]) by vorlon.mit.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA28064 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:18:25 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA22055 for fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:18:18 -0400 Received: via switchmail for fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po4.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by po4.andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA17846 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:16:16 -0400 Received: from student.anu.edu.au (root@student.anu.edu.au [150.203.21.26]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA18048 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:16:13 +1000 Received: from [150.203.34.21] by student.anu.edu.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05362; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:16:57 +1000 X-Sender: s3034446@student.anu.edu.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:19:42 +1100 To: fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu From: j.stokes@student.anu.edu.au (Jason Stokes) Subject: Germany calls on UN to create Web standards Sender: owner-fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu Precedence: bulk X-URL: http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/ X-JusticeOnCampusURL: http://joc.mit.edu/ I thought this was newsworthy (from C/net): >German officials are calling for the United Nations to help create >international standards for acceptable content on the Web, a plea that >comes just as Hamburg prosecutors accuse America Online's German >service of being used for transmitting child pornography through email. >Claudia Nolte, German's minister for family affairs, appeared Tuesday >before the United Nations to discuss how the international body could >play a role in developing standards to protect women and children from >violence and sexual exploitation online. Nolte said that international >standards will be necessary to prevent pornographers and neo-Nazis from >operating outside national jurisdictions. Full text at http://www.cnet.com/Content/News/Files/0,16,1860,00.html Jason Stokes: j.stokes@student.anu.edu.au