Date: Sat, 16 May 92 14:33:46 PDT From: "Peter G. Neumann" Subject: Two privacy newsgroups [Don't confuse them.] Following are items relating to two different newsgroups on PRIVACY. Dennis Rears' DIGEST is purposefully on the permissive side, less stringently moderated than RISKS; it is ideal for people who want relatively open newsgroups. Lauren Weinstein's FORUM will be on the selective side, substantially more closely moderated than RISKS; it is suitable for people who have little time, but have a vital interest in privacy. Both gentlemen are serious in their efforts. I think there are many reasons for both groups to coexist. Perhaps one or the other will satisfy those people interested in privacy issues who complain to RISKS that they want LESS MODERATION or MORE MODERATION, respectively. I hope that general discussions on privacy issues will continue to appear in RISKS, because those issues represent serious risks. Perhaps both moderators will submit summaries of key discussions to RISKS for our wider audience. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 92 00:08:14 PDT From: privacy@cv.vortex.com Subject: Announcing the PRIVACY Forum digest! Announcing the global Internet PRIVACY Forum! The PRIVACY Forum is a moderated digest for the discussion and analysis of issues relating to the general topic of privacy (both personal and collective) in the "information age" of the 1990's and beyond. Topics include a wide range of telecommunications, information/database collection and sharing, and related issues, as pertains to the privacy concerns of individuals, groups, businesses, government, and society at large. The manners in which both the legitimate and the controversial concerns of business and government interact with privacy considerations are also topics for the digest. Except when unusual events warrant exceptions, digest publication will be limited to no more than one or two reasonably-sized digests per week. Given the size of the Internet, this may often necessitate that only a small percentage of overall submissions may ultimately be presented in the digest. Submission volume also makes it impossible for unpublished submissions to be routinely acknowledged. Other mailing lists, with less stringent submission policies, may be more appropriate for readers who prefer a higher volume of messages regarding these issues. The goal of PRIVACY Forum is to present a high quality electronic publication which can act as a significant resource to both individuals and organizations who are interested in these issues. The digest is best viewed as similar in focus to a journal or specialized technical publication. The moderator will choose submissions for inclusion based on their relevance and content. The PRIVACY Forum is moderated by Lauren Weinstein of Vortex Technology. He has been active regarding a wide range of issues involving technology and society in the ARPANET/Internet community since the early 1970's. The Forum also has an "advisory committee" consisting of three individuals who have offered to act as a "sounding board" to help with any questions of policy which might arise in the course of the Forum's operations. These persons are Peter Neumann of SRI International (the moderator of the excellent and renowned Internet RISKS Forum digest), Marc Rotenburg of Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (a most clear and articulate spokesman for sanity in technology), and Willis Ware of RAND (one of the U.S.A.'s most distinguished champions of privacy issues). Feel free to distribute this announcement message to any interested individuals or groups, but please keep this entire message intact when doing so. Thanks! How to subscribe to PRIVACY Forum ================================= Individual subscriptions for the PRIVACY Forum are controlled through an automated list server ("listserv") system. To subscribe, send a message to: privacy-request@cv.vortex.com or: listserv@cv.vortex.com with a line in the BODY of the message of the form: subscribe privacy where is your actual name, not your e-mail address (your e-mail address is determined automatically by listserv). Also please note that the subscribe command must be in the BODY of your message, not in the "Subject:" field; the "Subject:" field of all messages to listserv is ignored. Example: subscribe privacy Dr. Sidney Schaffer Please note that the "subscribe" command is used to create your own individual subscription to the PRIVACY Forum mailing list. Site managers who wish to establish site-wide local redistribution mailing lists for PRIVACY Forum should contact a human at: list-maint@cv.vortex.com and provide the requested local redistribution mailing list address and any other details. Individuals who wish to subscribe directly to PRIVACY Forum (not to a local redistribution mailing list) should *not* contact "list-maint@cv.vortex.com" unless they are having problems with the automatic listserv "subscribe" command. For more information regarding the listserv system, follow the same command procedure described above, but send to: privacy-request@cv.vortex.com or: listserv@cv.vortex.com the command: help in the BODY of your message instead of "subscribe". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 92 13:59:53 EDT From: "Dennis G. Rears " Subject: Computer Privacy Digest/comp.society.privacy I am the moderator of the Computer Privacy Digest. The computer Privacy Digest is an Internet mailing list that is dedicated to the discussion of how technology impacts privacy. This list is gatewayed into the moderated USENET newsgroup comp.society.privacy. In lot of ways it is a subsection on the risks digest but it concentrates on the risks of technology on privacy. The charter is: comp.society.privacy Effects of technology on privacy (Moderated) This newsgroup is to provide a forum for discussion on the effect of technology on privacy. All too often technology is way ahead of the law and society as it presents us with new devices and applications. Technology can enhance and detract from privacy. This newsgroup will be gatewayed to an internet mailing list. Submissions go to: comp-privacy@pica.army.mil and administrative requests go to comp-privacy-request@pica.army.mil. dennis Dennis G. 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