From raids-owner@io.com Fri Nov 10 23:14:56 1995 Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by eff.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA25613 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:14:53 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA26952 for raids-digest-outgoing; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 01:08:34 -0600 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 01:08:34 -0600 Message-Id: <199511110708.BAA26952@lists.io.com> From: owner-raids-digest@io.com To: raids-digest@io.com Subject: raids-digest V1 #1 Reply-To: raids@io.com Errors-To: owner-raids-digest@io.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO raids-digest Saturday, 11 November 1995 Volume 01 : Number 001 In this issue: Introduction to the raids mailing list Italian crackown in Cyberspace (fwd) Italian crackown in Cyberspace (fwd) MATRIX - HK3 (Hong Kong) (fwd) "raids.digest.list" Raids digest: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Smith Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 00:50:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: Introduction to the raids mailing list Only after entering the 70 plus subscribers to the raids mailing list, did I realize that I hadn't configured the digest version to contain the new info for the mailing list. I've attached it to the end of this message. Everyone who sent an inquiry concerning our initial call for beta testers have been added to the raids mailing list. But you've all been added to the digest version, which means you should only receive one message a day, of all those posted to the list. I'll post more tomorrow. David Smith * Calendar of way cool e-things: bladex@bga.com * Mar 15-17 SXSW Multimedia President, EFF-Austin * Mon Mar 20th EFF-Austin General Meeting Board of Directors, CTCLU * April 1-2 Robofest EFF-Austin Law Enforcement Incidence Database EFF-Austin is interested in creating and maintaining a database of search and seizures involving BBS systems / Internet sites. The intention of such a database is to: * provide a status of recent incidences of government search and seizures. A file is to be opened for each raid, and then tracked as it's case winds it's way through the legal system. Ex: what is the last we heard about the Rusty N Edie BBS case? * provide a historical record of past seizures. People new to the Net, for example, need to know about the Steve Jackson Games case, and other important cases. * track certain trends and trouble areas for civil libertarians, such as computers that are seized and never returned, people who are raided and never indicted, and the "downsizing" of draconian tactics, where those who are likely to cart stuff out the door are not the FBI, but rather state or local law enforcement. * provide primary and secondary documentation sources for journalists, students, activists, law enforcement, and anyone else interested in these issues. WHAT WE NEED NOW IN TERMS OF BETA-TESTERS We have taken an initial stab at designing a report format that we think will cover all the bases, do what we want it to do, and be useful. We want feedback from : * People most likely to use the database (journalists, activists, students, law enforcement officials, lawyers, etc.) to examine the reports, make suggestions, and provide feedback on what information you would want from such a database. * People experienced in designing databases accessible via the Internet. This should be accessible via gopher and the World Wide Web, though we haven't selected a database engine yet. Since EFF-Austin is a non-profit, volunteer-run organization, we will need assistance from the entire online community in order to make this work. Anyone is eligible to contribute input or participate; you don't need to live in Austin or be a member of EFF-Austin. ------------------------------ From: Calum Selkirk Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 21:25:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Italian crackown in Cyberspace (fwd) I'm not quite sure the subject matter of this list, or how i came to be subscribed (Mod?) , i'm assuming the raids to be BBS raids. With that in mind i'm fwding info relating to 'Bits against the Empire' a Fidonet node in italy. calum - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 10:18:52 -0500 From: "Michael G. Koopman" To: natbbs@echonyc.com Cc: cybermind@jefferson.village.virginia.edu Subject: Italian crackown in Cyberspace .+!..+!..+!..+!..+!. For(lil)warded Article .+!..+!..+!..+!..+!. Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 09:14:41 CST From: hmcleave@mundo.eco.utexas.edu (Harry M. Cleaver) Subject: Italian crackown in Cyberspace Given: 1.the growing FBI et al campaign against hackers in the US, 2.reports that the Mexican government has been trying to disrupt the use of cyberspace against it in Chiapas, 3.the fact that we know that military analysts consider what we are doing a kind of low-level insurgency, and 4.multiplying news reports in print/TV about our use of cyberspace to oppose Mexican/US/WallSt/IMF policy in Mexico, I think that you all should be interested in this report of a recent repressive crackdown by the Italian state against the autonomous use of cyberspace in that country. Hary - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 21:52:22 +1100 From:______________ To: hmcleave@mundo.eco.utexas.edu Subject: FINAL VERSION - Italian crackown: translation STATE CHARGES ITALIAN COMPUTER BULLETIN BOARD WITH 'SUBVERSION' On Tuesday, 28 February, at seven in the morning, members of the Carabinieri Anti-Crime Special Operations Group raided the homes of a number of people in Rovereto and Trento associated with the local Self- managed Social Centre 'Clinamen'. Some of those raided are also active in the Italian anarchist movement. The warrant from the Rovereto court spoke of 'assocation with intent to subvert the democratic order' (art.270 bis CP), a charge which carries a very heavy penalty for those convicted of 7 to 15 years imprisonment. The absurdity of the charge speaks for itself. Confiscated in the raids were journals and magazines, leaflets, diaries, notebooks and video tapes, all of which were either publicly available or else for strictly personal use. Also seized was the personal computer which hosted 'BITS Against the Empire', a node in the Cybernet and Fidonet networks. Stored on the computer was a vast number of documents concerning the social use of new technologies, Italy's Self-managed Social Centres and independent music production, along with hundreds of elctronic reviews publicly available throughout the world computer network. Having decided quite explicitly from the onset not to hold any software whatsoever, the founders of the bulletin board (BBS) had dedicated themselves exclusively to communication through public electronic conferences and the consultation of texts held in the BBS archives. There can, therefore, be no substance to any charge of computer piracy or abusive software duplication, an accusation often advanced in earlier cases against Italian BBSs. The seizure of BITS Against the Empire strikes at one of the most prominent nodes within the Cybernet network, the first place in Italy to open itself up to the voices of the non-aligned, to those who refuse to be represented by the political parties, choosing instead - - both in the virtual and real worlds - the path of self-management. Nor has Cybernet ever accepted the use of authoritarian instruments tp police the BBS, whether these be 'the laws of cyberspace' or conference moderators (cibersbirri), preferring instead to leave all responsibilities - and thus freedom of action and thought - to each individual. It is precisely these freedoms which are daily negated in the physical world by the State and its demokracy. Cyberspace has now been discovered as a new consumer market, and above all as a new cultural terrain for the legitimation of the first, second and all subsequent Italian Republics. Alongside the sensationalism surrounding their direct actions against small, insignificant episodes of domestic computer piracy, the Italian magistrates and police forces have for some years now shown a certain fascination for places such as Cybernet and the European Counter Network, places which have experimented with new forms of social relations, new forms of contaminating culture and knowledge in the light of digital media. It is not surprising that the repressive organs of the State have reacted to their own technical and social ignorance by seizing an instrument of communication like a BBS: if they don't understand something it means they can't control it, and what can't be controlled is dangerous for a social order based upon fear and institutionalised violence. Messages of support and requests for further information can be sent to: Internet:lpaccagn@riscl.gelso.unitn.it Bitnet: lpaccag@itncisti European Counter Network: Luc Pac 45:1917/2.1 Cybernet: Luc Pac 65:1400/6 ------------------------------ From: Calum Selkirk Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 21:32:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Italian crackown in Cyberspace (fwd) For an article on The Italian Crackdown written by Gomma, editor of the Italian magazine _Decoder_, check out the March issue of Alt-X. Gomma is Alt-X's Italian correspondent in the "Interzones" section: http://www.altx.com/interzones/ ------------------------------ From: Calum Selkirk Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 22:37:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: MATRIX - HK3 (Hong Kong) (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 18:51:22 +0800 (HKT) From: FringeWare Daily Subject: MATRIX - HK3 (Hong Kong) Sent from: nokomis@hk.net (Christopher Kuffel) (Do what u want with it but don't change anything, ta.) Replies, questions, insults should be sent to either nokomis@hk.net or nigel@hk.super.net, with For Lisa or For Spod in the subject line. HK (3)... Last Friday was a black one indeed for the internet and it's users. Unless you are connected to a University or better off than most you lost your internet connection. For at least a while and possibly for ages you have been disconnected. No Carrier. The police raided the premises of all but one provider and in doing so have isolated us from our friends, our information and our work. How many have cursed since friday that just what you need is a file you had in your home directory or that a real life address is contained in a piece of e.mail you received shortly before the net went down. The sudden loss of the internet has both financial and personal costs. Possibly legal. It has been said that anyone knowingly using an unlicensed provider could be liable for a $5000 fine. The implications of the police taking away personal mail and belongings is also something to be considered. If the purpose of the raid was to disable the net it could have been accomplished without the removal of the disks containing the personal files. The links could have been cut as HKIGS did the previous week to some. OFTA has stated that the Commercial Crimes Bureau were active on friday because of 'alledged comercial crimes involving computer hacking'. Therefore it seems that one of the purposes of the raid was to enable the police to gain access to the information already stored here rather than denying internet users access to any more. If you had been using the net to steal or destroy property then you really deserve very little sympathy. If, however, you have been using the Internet respectably and responsibly there are some difficult legal implications to be sorted out. What did you keep in your account? How would you feel if some-else were to read it or it were to be made public? The most important thing is that the internet community in Hong Kong remains just that; a community of Internet users. The temporary loss on the net as a whole just means we'll have to contact each other in real life and try to sort out what has happened and where we stand. A meeting is being hosted today at 3.00 pm by Asia Online for all interested parties to attend. The planned venue is the Foriegn Correspondants Club although at the time of writing this had been unconfirmed. Confirmation of venue and time can be obtained by calling 2866 6018. Other than this, if you are lucky enough to have an active account through the net, try and see what the world at large is saying about what is happening here. You can contact the Electronic Freedom Federation or check their files at ftp.eff.org. They have an active interest in what happens to the net and the maintainence of privacy. Post updates to the USENET groups. mail your friends and tell them. Tell them there are 10,000 people here who want their net back. Also the position of Hong Kong's numerous and popular bulletin boards is at risk. They are technically covered by the same legislation that is the cause of the PNET fiasco. There is a general expectation that these too will be closed down, meaning the further involvement of the police and the raiding of private homes. It will be interesting to look back at these times and think over what happened, because right now I doubt if there is any one person who truely does. Thanks for your time, Cheers Spod ------------------------------ From: Calum Selkirk Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 22:37:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: "raids.digest.list" Moderator, last week i sent a number of mailings to this list re a raid on a particular Italian FidoNet node, as yet this mail hasn't resurfaced (or returned) from majordomo@io.com. is this list in operation yet? What exactly is the subject matter on this list? (i have assumed til yet that is relates to BBS raids), how did i come to be subscribed to it? Calum ------------------------------ End of raids-digest V1 #1 *************************