From mr6e+@andrew.cmu.edu Tue Sep 19 11:02:34 PDT 1995 Article: 13045 of alt.internet.media-coverage Xref: netcom.com alt.internet.media-coverage:13045 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!rochester!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mr6e+ From: Martin Rimm Newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage Subject: Advisory to mainstream media observers Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:29:10 -0400 Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu I noticed several posts to this newsgroup which are alleged to have been posted by me from this account. This is simply incorrect. The posts were forged. Please do not assume that comments which appear to have originated from this account in fact originated from me. Marty Rimm From paulp@nic.cerf.net Tue Sep 19 11:02:46 PDT 1995 Article: 13043 of alt.internet.media-coverage Xref: netcom.com alt.internet.media-coverage:13043 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!news.cerf.net!nic.cerf.net!paulp From: paulp@nic.cerf.net (Paul Phillips) Newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage Subject: Re: Advisory to mainstream media observers Date: 19 Sep 1995 02:21:08 GMT Organization: http://www.primus.com/staff/paulp/useless.html Lines: 25 Message-ID: <43l9ek$pgi@news.cerf.net> References: <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net In article <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> Martin Rimm writes: >I noticed several posts to this newsgroup which are alleged to have been >posted by me from this account. This is simply incorrect. The posts were >forged. Please do not assume that comments which appear to have >originated from this account in fact originated from me. And we know that THIS post isn't forged because ... ? And we know you aren't just trying to deny responsibility for the previus posts after feeling stupid because ... ? Heard of PGP, Marty? I know you'd be thrilled about any effort to criminalize it, but that shouldn't preclude you from using it to verify the origin of posts purporting to come from you. People that are widely disdained often use it, as they are among the most likely to attract forgers. -PSP -- "You have no idea what a REAL hatchet job is: you don't _understand_ the meaning of savage. My lynching has been more savage and more personal than any other in the history of the Net." -- poor misunderstood Marty[r] Rimm, alt.internet.media-coverage From rnewman@kalypso.cybercom.net Tue Sep 19 11:02:54 PDT 1995 Article: 13047 of alt.internet.media-coverage Xref: netcom.com alt.internet.media-coverage:13047 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.cybercom.net!kalypso.cybercom.net!not-for-mail From: rnewman@kalypso.cybercom.net (Ron Newman) Newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage Subject: Re: Advisory to mainstream media observers Date: 18 Sep 1995 23:13:20 -0400 Organization: Cyber Access Internet Communications, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <43lcgg$ebd@kalypso.cybercom.net> References: <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kalypso.cybercom.net In article <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu>, Martin Rimm wrote: >I noticed several posts to this newsgroup which are alleged to have been >posted by me from this account. This is simply incorrect. The posts were >forged. Please do not assume that comments which appear to have >originated from this account in fact originated from me. How can we be sure that this message originated from you, Marty? -- Ron Newman rnewman@cybercom.net Web: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/home.html From tskirvin@arh0062.urh.uiuc.edu Tue Sep 19 11:03:00 PDT 1995 Article: 13048 of alt.internet.media-coverage Xref: netcom.com alt.internet.media-coverage:13048 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!arh0062!tskirvin From: tskirvin@arh0062.urh.uiuc.edu (Tim Skirvin) Newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage Subject: Re: Advisory to mainstream media observers Date: 19 Sep 1995 03:57:33 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 14 Message-ID: <43lf3d$kku@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: arh0062.urh.uiuc.edu Martin Rimm writes: >I noticed several posts to this newsgroup which are alleged to have been >posted by me from this account. This is simply incorrect. The posts were >forged. Please do not assume that comments which appear to have >originated from this account in fact originated from me. Use PGP. If you want security, that's about the only safe way. - Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@uiuc.edu) -- Skirv's Homepage From flixman@news.dorsai.org Tue Sep 19 11:03:11 PDT 1995 Article: 13057 of alt.internet.media-coverage Xref: netcom.com alt.internet.media-coverage:13057 Newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dorsai.org!flixman From: flixman@news.dorsai.org (Robt_Martin) Subject: Re: Advisory to mainstream media observers Message-ID: Sender: news@dorsai.org (Keeper of the News) Organization: The Dorsai Embassy - New York X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> <43lf3d$kku@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:53:02 GMT Lines: 23 Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@arh0062.urh.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Martin Rimm writes: : >I noticed several posts to this newsgroup which are alleged to have been : >posted by me from this account. This is simply incorrect. The posts were : >forged. Please do not assume that comments which appear to have : >originated from this account in fact originated from me. : Use PGP. : If you want security, that's about the only safe way. : - Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@uiuc.edu) : -- : Skirv's Homepage Something screwy is going on. This message, and the previous posts from the Rimm account, never reached dorsai.org -- I've only seen them quoted at second and third-hand. I haven't noticed such a problem with other posters; are others seeing the same thing? From sethf@mit.edu Tue Sep 19 11:03:30 PDT 1995 Article: 13059 of alt.internet.media-coverage Xref: netcom.com alt.internet.media-coverage:13059 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.mathworks.com!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!sethf From: sethf@athena.mit.edu (Seth Finkelstein) Newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage Subject: Re: Advisory to mainstream media observers Date: 19 Sep 1995 06:25:36 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 17 Message-ID: <43lnp0$1mq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> Reply-To: sethf@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: frumious-bandersnatch.mit.edu In article <4kLQW6O00WBMA6UGsb@andrew.cmu.edu> Martin Rimm writes: >I noticed several posts to this newsgroup which are alleged to have been >posted by me from this account. This is simply incorrect. The posts were >forged. Please do not assume that comments which appear to have >originated from this account in fact originated from me. "It was a forgery". This is the oldest trick in the net.book. Do you (Rimm or not) think anyone is going to take this seriously? Maybe the above is a forgery. I'll point out that last article certainly sounded like the Rimm I know. Are we going to be treated to a tactic of conflicting claims of forgery, in a futile attempt to substitute confusion for criticism? It won't work. -- Seth Finkelstein sethf@mit.edu Disclaimer : I am not the Lorax. I speak only for myself. (and certainly not for Project Athena, MIT, or anyone else).