From declanm@netcom.com Mon Jul 17 20:30:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from po8.andrew.cmu.edu by mail3.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA07608; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 20:01:56 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA06614; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:54:58 -0400 Received: via switchmail for fight-censorship+@andrew.cmu.edu; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (netcom19.netcom.com [192.100.81.132]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA22455 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:53:47 -0400 Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id TAA03846; Mon, 17 Jul 1995 19:44:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 19:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: D B McCullagh Subject: A Climax of Sublime Rectitude To: fight-censorship@andrew.cmu.edu cc: altmann@cs.cmu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: (The following messages are from a graduate student and outspoken administration critic in CMU's school of computer science.) CMU's vice provost, Erwin Steinberg, legitimized Rimm's work by appearing with him on Nightline and by defending the administration's Usenet censorship. An odd occupation, you might say, for a former English professor who used to teach Joyce. As a side note, Altmann was brought up on disciplinary charges twice last year for his allegedly politically incorrect speech. CMU is, after all, an equal-opportunity censor: not just Usenet, but also political speech. -Declan --- From: Erik Altmann Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 16:16:01 EDT To: Erwin.Steinberg@ANDREW.CMU.EDU CC: Eric.Johnson@ANDREW.CMU.EDU, bb+graffiti.bboard-censorship@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: A Faustian bargain Dear Dr. Steinberg, The news below helped answer some of my questions. For one who has labored in obscurity for so long, a last chance to perform before an audience must be tempting. And so the professor of English betrays academia, to become at least visible. You are not only visible, but transparent. Your various recent performances make it clear that you are a censor and a moral despot, and that you have no sense of responsibility. You will escape the consequences of your actions, but my colleagues and I will live them. Your actions, and the support they have received from Carnegie Mellon University, will affect every choice I make about CMU for as long as I have an income. Sincerely, Erik Altmann Graduate Student, Computer Science > NIGHTLINE...Erwin Steinberg, Vice Provost for Education, and Martin Rimm, > Electrical and Computer Engineering, will appear on the Monday evening, > June 26 "Nightline" (taped broadcast). They will be addressing internet > censorship. You won't want to miss this one! --- From: Erik Altmann Date: Tue, 13 Dec 94 12:49:24 EST To: Erwin.Steinberg@ANDREW.CMU.EDU CC: bb+graffiti.bboard-censorship@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: A missing voice Dear Dr Steinberg, Your challenges to what Dr Arms so rightly calls the "liberal" perspective on bboard regulation have been somewhat flaccid, and leave us cold. By now we crave a penetrating analysis of such key historical questions as the evolution of scandalousness since your day. We also wait to be led with courage and honesty in the struggle against subversive and dangerous cults like anime cartoonery. It really is up to you to cool the prurient ardor that fevers and shames our institution; to protect us from images wanton enough to disrupt equanimity even in the calcified and impotent. It's up to you to remind us that our alma mater, in loco parentis, has a reputation vto maintain. What parents would entrust their children to a fallen, *libidinous* community? If we can't convince them that we prohibit smut, they won't even get to the ticklish question of CMU's suicide rate. Take heart, and take the lead of our President, who recently addressed the misdemeanors of his Surgeon General. Consult Dr Arms, Dr Christiano, and Dr Mehrabian -- call a planning meeting of the Senior Anti-Sex League. Deputize your PG ratings committee, issue scrapers and passwords, and march them off to keep our campus free of lascivious images. Then speak to us, Dr Steinberg. Turn to us with the passion -- nay, outrage! -- that you muster so abruptly in response to the lightest and most innocent rhetorical caress. Drive us to a climax of sublime rectitude! Hey hey, ho ho, masturbation has got to go! Oh God! Yours in temperance, Erik Altmann